{"id":9448,"date":"2014-09-30T01:00:57","date_gmt":"2014-09-30T08:00:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.doorposts.com\/blog\/?p=9448"},"modified":"2014-09-29T12:38:21","modified_gmt":"2014-09-29T19:38:21","slug":"training-children-for-their-good","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.doorposts.com\/blog\/2014\/09\/30\/training-children-for-their-good\/","title":{"rendered":"Training Children for Their Good"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-9451\" alt=\"Training children for their good\" src=\"http:\/\/www.doorposts.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Training-children-for-their-good.jpg\" width=\"240\" height=\"315\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.doorposts.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Training-children-for-their-good.jpg 240w, https:\/\/www.doorposts.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/09\/Training-children-for-their-good-228x300.jpg 228w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 240px) 100vw, 240px\" \/>When I wrote about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.doorposts.com\/blog\/2014\/09\/09\/discipline-vs-punishment-whats-the-difference\/\" target=\"_blank\"><b>Discipline vs Punishment<\/b><\/a> a few weeks ago, I was surprised by the animated discussion that followed. In the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.doorposts.com\/blog\/2014\/09\/09\/discipline-vs-punishment-whats-the-difference\/#comments\" target=\"_blank\">comments<\/a> and in a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.doorposts.com\/blog\/2014\/09\/09\/discipline-vs-punishment-whats-the-difference\/#update\" target=\"_blank\">post update<\/a> I added, we talked more specifically about what discipline and punishment look like in the home and what constitutes biblical discipline.<\/p>\n<p>About the same time, I discovered an article entitled <a href=\"http:\/\/andynaselli.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013_training.pdf\" target=\"_blank\"><b>Training Children for Their Good<\/b><\/a>, by Andy Naselli. I found this very relevant to our discussion, and I want to share it with you. The full article is 13 pages long (plus footnotes), but <strong>it\u2019s worth your time<\/strong>. It brings Scripture to bear on some important questions, and it will make you think!<\/p>\n<p>The author begins <a href=\"http:\/\/andynaselli.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013_training.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">the article<\/a> by examining Hebrews 12:4-11, which describes how God disciplines us as his children, and he extracts<b> seven propositions about discipline.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>He then surveys the primary verses from Proverbs that relate to discipline, noting that godly discipline begins with <b>teaching<\/b>, followed by <b>warning<\/b>. <b>Physical discipline<\/b> is the final step a parent should take, only after a child chooses to disregard instruction and warning. The fourth level of discipline (severe <b>punishment<\/b>) is not the job of parents, but of the state. Hopefully, children who are disciplined by godly parents will never reach that level.<\/p>\n<p>Next he addresses some good <b>questions raised by writers who are opposed to spanking, <\/b>including \u201cIs spanking antithetical to the gospel?\u201d<b> <\/b><\/p>\n<p>Finally, he draws some of his own <b>conclusions<\/b> about parenting, based on the Scriptural observations already laid out. These include the necessity of multiple levels of discipline, avoiding extremes, and emphasizing love for our children.<\/p>\n<p><b>Overall, this article reminded me of some important things:<\/b><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>First of all, training children takes dedicated effort on our part!<\/li>\n<li>Loving discipline, including instruction, mercy, and sometimes pain, does indeed reflect the character of our Heavenly Father, as He deals with us, and as He\u2019s dealt with His people throughout history.<\/li>\n<li>Spanking <b>should not<\/b> be our <i>first<\/i> or our <i>only<\/i> tool for discipline. In fact, it\u2019s something of a \u201clast resort\u201d to be used only if our careful instruction, warning, and confronting has been disregarded.<\/li>\n<li>Godly discipline is a big part of pointing our children to the gospel. If we don\u2019t explain God\u2019s law, our sin, and the punishment we all deserve, our children won\u2019t have a framework for understanding God\u2019s grace and mercy or for valuing what Jesus has done for them.<\/li>\n<li>Finally, when we\u2019re studying what the Bible says about a topic like this, it\u2019s important to practice real exegesis. We must seek to draw out the intended meaning of relevant Scripture passages and interpret these passages in light of the rest of the Bible.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>If you read <a href=\"http:\/\/andynaselli.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013_training.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Training Children for Their Good<\/a>, please leave a comment and let me know what you think!<\/p>\n<div class=\"rtsocial-container rtsocial-container-align-left rtsocial-icon\"><div class=\"rtsocial-fb-icon \"> <div class=\"rtsocial-fb-icon-button\"><a title=\"Share: Training Children for Their Good\" class=\"rtsocial-fb-icon-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.doorposts.com%2Fblog%2F2014%2F09%2F30%2Ftraining-children-for-their-good%2F\" target= \"_blank\"><\/a><\/div><\/div><div class=\"rtsocial-twitter-icon\"> <div class=\"rtsocial-twitter-icon-button\"><a title=\"Tweet: Training Children for Their Good\" class=\"rtsocial-twitter-icon-link\" href= \"https:\/\/twitter.com\/share?text=Training%20Children%20for%20Their%20Good&via=@doorposts&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.doorposts.com%2Fblog%2F2014%2F09%2F30%2Ftraining-children-for-their-good%2F\" target= \"_blank\"><\/a><\/div><\/div><div class=\"rtsocial-pinterest-icon\"> <div class=\"rtsocial-pinterest-icon-button\"><a class=\"rtsocial-pinterest-icon-link\" href= \"https:\/\/pinterest.com\/pin\/create\/button\/?url=https:\/\/www.doorposts.com\/blog\/2014\/09\/30\/training-children-for-their-good\/&media=https:\/\/www.doorposts.com\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/rtsocial\/images\/default-pinterest.png&description=Training Children for Their Good\" target= \"_blank\" title=\"Pin: Training Children for Their Good\"><\/a><\/div><\/div><a rel=\"nofollow\" class=\"perma-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.doorposts.com\/blog\/2014\/09\/30\/training-children-for-their-good\/\" title=\"Training Children for Their Good\"><\/a><input type=\"hidden\" name=\"rts_id\" class=\"rts_id\" value=\"9448\" \/><input type=\"hidden\" id=\"rts_media_nonce\" name=\"rts_media_nonce\" value=\"b2b2cadfff\" \/><input type=\"hidden\" name=\"_wp_http_referer\" value=\"\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9448\" \/><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When I wrote about Discipline vs Punishment a few weeks ago, I was surprised by the animated discussion that followed. 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